Neetu Yoshi Ltd — Important, 10-06-2026: Company Update
Date:09.06.2026
To,
TheSecretary
BSELimited(SMEPlatform)
25thfloor,PhirozeJeejeebhoyTowers,
DalalStreet,Fort,Mumbai–400001
Symbol:NEETUYOSHI
Sub:TranscriptofthepostresultsearningscallheldonJune04,2026
DearSir/Madam,
PursuanttoRegulation30oftheSEBI(ListingObligationsandDisclosureRequirements)Regulations,
2015,pleasefindenclosedthetranscriptoftheCompany’svirtualresultsconferencecall,heldonJune
04,2026,inrespectoftheCompany’sauditedfinancialresultsforthehalfyearandfinancialYearended
March31,2026.
Youarerequestedtotakethesameonrecord.
ForandonbehalfofNEETUYOSHILIMITED
(FormerlyNeetuYoshiPrivateLimited)
HimanshuLohia
ManagingDirector
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“NeetuYoshiLimited
H2FY26ResultsConferenceCall”
June04,2026
MANAGEMENT:MR.HIMANSHULOHIA–MANAGINGDIRECTORAND
CHIEFFINANCIALOFFICER–NEETUYOSHILIMITED
MR.SUBODHLOHIA–WHOLE-TIMEDIRECTOR–
NEETUYOSHILIMITED
MS.SAUNDARYALOHIA–NON-EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR–NEETUYOSHILIMITED
MODERATOR:MR.KARANTHAKUR–KIRINADVISORSPRIVATE
LIMITED
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Moderator:Ladiesandgentlemen,gooddayandwelcometoH2FY26ResultsConferenceCallofNeetu
YoshiLimited,hostedbyKirinAdvisorsPrivateLimited.Asareminder,allparticipantlines
willbeinthelisten-onlymodeandtherewillbeanopportunityforyoutoaskquestionsafter
thepresentationconcludes.Shouldyouneedassistanceduringtheconferencecall,please
signalanoperatorbypressingstarthenzeroonyourtouchtonephone.Pleasenotethatthis
conferenceisbeingrecorded.
InowhandtheconferencecallovertoMr.KaranThakurfromKirinAdvisors.Thankyouand
overtoyou,sir.
KaranThakur:Yes.Thankyou.Goodafternoon,everyone.OnbehalfofKirinAdvisors,Iwelcomeyouallto
theH2FY26EarningsCallofNeetuYoshiLimited.Wehavewithustheseniormanagement
ofthecompanyledbyMr.HimanshuLohia,ManagingDirectorandChiefFinancialOfficer;
Mr.SubodhLohia,Whole-TimeDirector;andMs.SaundaryaLohia,Non-ExecutiveDirector.
WewillstartwiththebriefopeningremarkswhichwillbefollowedbyaQ&Asession.
ThankyouandInowhandoverthecalltoMr.HimanshuLohia.Overtoyou,sir.
HimanshuLohia:WishingyouallaveryYoshimorning.Thankyousomuchforjoiningustoday.Andweare
happytosharethatwehaveannouncedtheresultandourtotalincomefortheyearhavebeen
INR101crores,whichis44%upthanthelastyear.ThePAThavebeenINR25crores,which
wehavecommittedtoourinvestors,whichisbeenaincreaseof53%fromthelastyear.
Ourcashflowhavebeenpositive.Further,theinvestorswhojoinedthecompany,wearevery
happythatyouhavebeenassociatedwiththecompany.Andmoreover,youwouldhavegone
throughtheresults,soIwouldlikemoreandmoretimetobeinvestedonthequestionand
answers.So,IwouldrequestyoupeopletostarttheQ&Around.
Moderator:Thankyouverymuch.Wewillnowbeginthequestionandanswersession.Thefirstquestion
isfromthelineofChintanParikhfromVyomCapital.Pleasegoahead.
ChintanParikh:Hi,Himanshu.Howareyou?
HimanshuLohia:Hi,Chintan.Iamgood.Howareyou?
ChintanParikh:Good,good.Andfirstofall,congratulationsongreatsetofnumbersandafantasticprofit.My
question,firstquestionisontheoperationalreadinessofournewfactory.Wherearewe?Are
weableto--havewestartedtheproductions?Isitoutgoing?Andupdateonthebogieandthe
wagonmanufacturingreadiness.
HimanshuLohia:Chintan,theplantisreadyalready.YouwillhearthecommencementoftheplantwithinJune
itself.So,firstinvoiceswouldberaisedinthemonthofJune.Further,theapprovalprocessfor
thebogieisgoingon.Simultaneously,therearemanyotherproductsalsothatweare
developing.Thesamplesofcouplerandyokesupportandall,alreadywehavetakenoutthe
samplesaswell.
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ChintanParikh:Okay.Andsecondquestionisonthe,let'ssay,upcomingRDSOapprovalson,existingornew
productsthatweare.So,ifyoucanhelpusunderstandhowmanyproductsareinpipeline,at
whichstageonRDSOapprovalstage?
HimanshuLohia:So,inRDSOapproval,thereareanother15to20productswhichareinpipelineandthereare
variousproductswhichareindevelopmentalphaseandtheycompletedthetimelineforthat.
Wehaveappliedfortheupgradationofthoseproductlinealso.Andinitial--first,initially,
sincewewereonlysupplyingtothewagonindustry,sowewereapplyingtotheRDSOforthe
approval.
Butnow,sincewearesupplyingtothetrackindustryalso,tothelocomotivealso,andalsoto
thecoachesaswell,sowearenowfortheapprovalswearesupplying--applyingtoICFas
well,MCFaswell,RCFaswell.So,thereareanother--variousproductswhichareinpipeline
ofapprovalandupgradationaswell,morethan15products.
Moderator:Mr.Parikh,youwanttoaskmorequestions?Mr.Parekh?Asthereisnoresponsefromthe
currentparticipant,wewilltakethenextquestionfromthelineofParasChhedafrom
PurpleoneVertexVentures.Pleasegoahead.
ParasChheda:Yes.Goodafternoon,Himanshuji.Thankyouforthisopportunityandcongratulationsfora
strongsetofresults.Sir,Ijustunderstoodthat,youknow,ournewcapacitywillbeoperational
fromJuneitself,withinthismonth.Giventhatisacase,sir,forFY27,whatcouldbethe
revenueguidancenowrevised?AnddoweexpectthePATmarginstostill,hoveraround25%
plus-minusorareweexpectingsomemoderationaswescaleup?
HimanshuLohia:So,therevenueguidanceforthiscurrentfinancialyearwhatwehavegivenisaroundINR210
croresandthePATmarginsof25%.AndweseethesamePATmarginscarryforwardforthis
currentfinancialyearaswellandweareverypositiveaboutit.
ParasChheda:Right.So,youstillstickingtoabout25%oddPATmargin,yousaid?
HimanshuLohia:Yes,25%ofPATmargin.
ParasChheda:Understood,sir.Andsir,oncethiscapacityisoperational,nowboththesecapacitiesput
together,Imean,whatcouldbethepeakrevenuethat'spossiblefromthesenow?
HimanshuLohia:So,INR110croresfromtheoldplantandnewplantisINR200crores.Andtherehavebeen,
like,otherdevelopmentforthetrackpartalso,sothereisanotherrevenuecomingfromthat.
So,wecan--wecansayapproximatelyfromboththeplant,wecandoaroundINR340crores,
INR350crores.
ParasChheda:INR340crores,INR350crores?
HimanshuLohia:Right.
ParasChheda:Right.Andthatsortofpeakrevenueweexpecttoreachmaybenextyear?
HimanshuLohia:Yes,nextyear.Nextfinancialyear.
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ParasChheda:Nextfinancialyear.Understood,sir.Imean,nowwe'veseen,youknow,thereissomebitof
diversificationawayfromthegovernment,clientstowardsprivatesector.So,Imean,istherea
changeinthereceivabledaysnowandwhatshareofprivatesectorarewetargetingforFY27
now?
HimanshuLohia:So,initially,therehavenotbeenchangeinthis.Weweresupplyingtothegovernmentalso,we
weresupplyingtotheprivateplayersbeforealso.CompanieslikeJupiter,Titagarh,andother,
like,trackcompanieslikevarioustrackcompanywhicharethereinthemarketandvarious
companywhicharewearingthecoachsectionalso.
Weweresupplyingtothembeforealso.Theyareconsideredasaprivate,buttheyare
supposedto--thematerialissupposedtobeboughtfromtheapprovedsourcesaswell.So,we
aresupplyingtotheprivatepeoplealsobeforeandnowalsowearesupplyingtoprivatepeople.
Further,indiversificationofproductline,thereareotherproductlinealso,beitinthemining
sectionorbethepowersectionandorthehighlymarginproductsforplantandmachineries.
Wearetargetingthemalso.So,thehighPATmarginswhichwearetargeting,thatcanbe
carriedforward.
ParasChheda:Isthereadifferenceinthereceivabledaysbetweenthetwo?
HimanshuLohia:Thereisadifferenceinprivateandgovernmentsector.Thereisadifferenceinreceivabledate.
So,manyofthepeoplewouldhavelikequestionorthereceivablecyclehaveincreased.Itis
notthereceivablecycleforusthecompanyhaveincreased.Ifyoupeoplewouldhaveattended
ourcallbefore.
Sowehaveclearly--wehavestatedthatthepaymentcycleintheRailwaysinthemonthof
March--FebruaryandMarchisverybadbecausetheirfundshavegotendedanditistheApril
theirfundsstartscomingin.So,thatiswhythereceivablesdayinthemonthofMarchyou
wouldseehigherdebtorsstandinginthemonthofMarch.ButwhenyoucomedowntoApril,
initiallyinthefirst15daysonly,halfofthemwouldhave--ourfundhadgotcollected.
ParasChheda:Understood,sir.Andjustaswespeak,sir,Imeanhowisthedemandenvironmentlookingto
youforthenext2,3yearsatleast?
HimanshuLohia:Therewasalittleslowdowninthewagonindustry,butnowasyouseenew1lakhwagon
orderiscomingintoplace,thatwagonindustrywouldagainstartgointohikenow.And
furtherthecoachandtrack,whichvariousproductwhichwehavedeveloped,weseevery
strongpotentialinthataswell.So,wagonalsocomingbacktothenormalgrowthline,wesee
whattargetedwehadprojectedandeverythingtobeback--tobeinplacetotally.
ParasChheda:Sirwewillbeabletoachieveourtargetthen,moreorless?
HimanshuLohia:Yes,weareveryconfidentofthat.
ParasChheda:Okay.Thankyousomuch,Himanshuji.
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Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofParthAcharyaanIndividualInvestor.Pleasego
ahead.
ParthAcharya:Yes.Hi.Goodafternoon,sir.AmIaudible?
HimanshuLohia:YesParth.Howareyou?
ParthAcharya:YesIamgoodsir.So,Ijusthaveacoupleofquestions.So,whatisthetimelineforthiswagon
manufacturingfacility?
HimanshuLohia:Currently,wearegoingforabogiemanufacturingfacilityrightnowthatwewillbe
operationalwithinthismonth.Wagonmanufacturingfacility,weaiminfuturein3yearsdown
theline,butcurrentlywhichthebogiemanufacturingfacilitywhichwillbereadyinthismonth
foroperation.
ParthAcharya:Okay.Andwhatwasthecapexdoneforthat?
HimanshuLohia:TheINR50croresoffundswhichweraisedfromtheIPOforthecapex,thatwehavedonein
thebogiemanufacturingfacility.
ParthAcharya:Okay.Andsir,recentlytherewasthemegawagontenderof40,000croresinnewsrecently.So,
doyouexpectanykindofarevenuefromthatwithwagonmanufacturing?
HimanshuLohia:Itwasa1lakhwagontenderthatiscomingintoplace.So,oncethewagonmanufacturing
come,automaticallythebogiemanufacturing,thecomponentmanufacturinggetthebenefitof
it.So,definitelytherewillbealotofbenefit.
ParthAcharya:So,anyordersthatyouexpectfromthis?
HimanshuLohia:Yes.Allthesub-assemblyorderandthebogieassembly,theyaregoingtomanufacturethe
wagon,thesub-assembliesandthebogieorderaregoingtocometous.
ParthAcharya:Alsolikeinrespecttoancillarythatislikewithoutwagonmanufacturing?
HimanshuLohia:Ididn'tgetyourquestion.Canyourepeat?
ParthAcharya:Yes.Otherthanwagonmanufacturing,weexpectanyancillaryordersfromthis?
HimanshuLohia:So,basicallytheorderisforthewagonsandtheoncethewagonisbeingmanufactured,they
needthebogiesandthecomponent.So,thebogiemanufacturerandthecomponent
manufacturerwillgetthecompleteorderofcomponentsandbogiesandwhichwillbe
procuredbythewagonmanufacturers.
ParthAcharya:Okay,sir.That'sit,sir.Thankyou.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofAchuthanIndividualInvestor.Pleasegoahead.
Achuth:Sir,Iwanttoknowmoreaboutyourcertificationslikewhatistheentrybarriersandhowhard
thistogetthiscertification,sir?Likerecentlyyouhavealsoinformedtothemarketthatyou
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receivedsomeRDSOcertifications.So,Ijustwanttoknow,Imean,howhardthistogetthis
certificationsandwhataretheentrybarriersforthisbusiness?
HimanshuLohia:So,it'sawholelongprocessofgettinganyapprovals,sir.Thereisa--fromdocumentscrutiny
toCCAtoprototypeandtogettingonceyouareapprovedasadevelopmentalcategory,there
isafieldtrialforquantityandthenyougettheapprovals.So,it'saverylongtediousprocess
andoneofthemainentrybarrierfromkeepinganycompanycomingintotheprocess.
Andthecomponentwhichwearemanufacturing,theseareallcriticalcomponents.Theseare
likecalledClassAcomponentswhichcriticalsafetycomponents.So,theyhaveahugesafety
barriersaswellasaprocessbarrier.Andifyou'llseeeachproduct,therearefourtofiveto
sevenactiveclientsineachofthem.So,thatisthereasonbecauseoftheentrybarrierthese--
thereareverylesspeopleinit.
Achuth:Okay,sir.Sir,mysecondquestionislikeasweareabletoseesomeslowdownfromyour
clients,likemostoftherailway-relatedcontractors,likethereweareabletoseesome
slowdownintheirresultsaswell.So,howistheorderinflow,sir?Howistheorderinflowand
howtheFY27isgoingtobe?So,areyoualsoseeingsomeslowdowninyourbusinessorare
theorderinflowsaregoodenough?
HimanshuLohia:No.Ourlineofbusiness,wedon'tseeanyslowdown.Eachaspectwhichwearetargeting,they
havegotsufficientrevenueandmarginsector.So,wearenotseeinganyslowdown.Weare
verypositiveofthemarketaswellandwearepositiveabouttheworkwearedoingaswell.
Achuth:Okay.Whatistheorderinflows,Imean,whatisthecurrentorderbookandhowmuch--what
istheorderinflowforinthiscurrentyear,sir?
HimanshuLohia:Asondate,wewouldhavegotorderbookofmorethanINR140crores,INR150.00crores
withvariousopenordersbeingataplace.
Achuth:Whatisthetimeline,sir,toexecutethisorder?
HimanshuLohia:So,there'sdifferenttimelineassociatedwiththeprivateplayersandalsothegovernment
player.So,roughlyyoucansaywithinthenextfinancialyear--thisfinancialyear.
Achuth:Okay,sir.Understood.Thankyousomuch.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofRameshD,anIndividualInvestor.Pleasego
ahead.
RameshD:Goodafternoon,sir.AmIaudible?Sir,Imissedyourearliercommentaryaboutguidance.
Whatistherevenueguidancefor26-27,sir?
HimanshuLohia:Forthecurrentfinancialyearyouaretalkingabout,right?
RameshD:Correct.
HimanshuLohia:So,wetargetingINR210crorestoINR220crores,sir.
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RameshD:AndIwanttoknowabouttherawmaterialpressures.Isthereanypressureontherawmaterial
cost?Howarewegoingtohandleit?
HimanshuLohia:So,therehavebeenincreaseinrawmaterialcost,butweeachorderswearequoting,thereisa
clausecalledPVC,PriceVariationClause.So,accordingtothemarketrate,whenonceweare
quotinginthegovernment,soonceweraisethebilltotheRailways,accordinglythepriceget
revised.AndtotheRailwaysyousupplyingonthetenderbasisaccordingly.So,wegetthe
increasedpricevariationfromthere.
RameshD:Okay.Thenthisforwardintegrationtobogiemanufacturing,Iassumethatitishighermargin
business,right,sir?
HimanshuLohia:Wearetargeting25%PATfromthesimilarproductlineaswell.
RameshD:Okay.Andinearlierconferencecalls,Ithinklastyearyoumentionedaboutthereissome
benefitoftaxrebate,maybelike15%orsomething.Isitgoingtocontinueforusoristhere
anytimelimit,sir?
HimanshuLohia:It'sforthelifetime,sir.Sir,anycompanywhichwasestablishedandinoperationalyear,
accordinglythatgoesforthelifetimeforus.
RameshD:Andyouarementioningthattheassetsareveryfungible,likewecangointootherverticals
also.Arethereanyplans,sir,likemaybe1yearor2yearsdowntheline?
HimanshuLohia:WefocusedontheRailwayandotherlinesalso,fewproductsofotherlinetobepresentin
differentscenariosinthedifferentmarket.Wehavedevelopedinotherlinesaswell.
RameshD:Okay.Thankyousomuch.Allthebest.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofArpitJodhani,anIndividualInvestor.Pleasego
ahead.
ArpitJodhani:Goodafternoon,sir.
HimanshuLohia:Goodafternoon.
ArpitJodhani:Sir,congratulationsfirstofallfortheRDSOapprovalwhatwegetlastmonth.Andalsoasyou
mentioned,wehaveanother15productundertheRDSOapproval.Dowehaveanytimeline
untilwhichweareexpectingtogetthisapprovalorquarterlyormaybe?
HimanshuLohia:So,eachproductlinehave--wehavesinceIstatedbeforealso,sowesuppliedtoRDSOalso,
ICF,RCF,MCF,differentagenciesfortheapproval.Soeachproducthavetheirowncriteria
timeline.Somewouldcome--somecomeinwouldcomein3months,somewouldtake6to7
months'time.
ArpitJodhani:Okay.So,byH127wecanexpectthis,right?
HimanshuLohia:Right.
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ArpitJodhani:Andsir,anotherquestion,aswesaidafterhavingupcomingfacilityinoperation,wecan
generaterevenuearoundINR350croresandwearegivinganguidanceofINR210croresfor
FY27.Doweplananyfurtherexpansionorcapexplaninfuture?
HimanshuLohia:Ourcompanyhavebeencontinuousaspectofexpansionwhereverwehaveseenthescopewe
havetodevelopourselves.Wehavebeendoingit.Forthebogieplantsimultaneouslywehave
donetwootherexpansionalso.Andincurrentlyalso,anyaspectanyproductweseewherewe
candiversifyandintotheRailwaysandwouldhavewhichsustainamargins,wewouldkeep
expanding.
ArpitJodhani:Okay.Thankyou.
HimanshuLohia:Ican’thearyou.
Moderator:Sir,he'sdoneasking.Thankyou.WewilltakeournextquestionfromthelineofVanshfrom
3ACapital.Pleasegoahead.
Vansh:Thankyoufortheopportunity.Sir,firstofall,congratulations,goodsetofnumbers.
HimanshuLohia:Ihavejustafewquestions.Regardinglasttimeyouhavementionedthatyouwon'tbeneeding
anyfundstoraiseforthenext3years.Afterthatforwhenyou'llbeventuringintothewagon
manufacturing.So,like,currentlyyouhaveissuedthewarrants.So,what'sthepurposeofthat
warrants,canyoujustelaborate?
HimanshuLohia:So,sir,sincesimultaneouslywesaidwearegoingintothetrack.So,wehaveputcomplete
infrastructureforthesame.So,whenwesayingwearegoingtothetrack,thereisarailwhich
isneedtobeprocuredfromJindalandyoudoyourmachiningworkandassemblythe
completeturnoutandeverythingandsupplyittotheRailways.
So,rightnowwhenwearemakingthecomponents,thebasicmainpricingforusisscrap
whichcomestoINR37toINR39.Butwhenwearetalkingaboutrail,wehavetobuyitat
INR65toINR70perkgandwehavetotakekeeptheinventoryofalmost2monthsforthat.
AndthenthecompleteassemblingwillhappenandthematerialwillgototheRailways,which
haveahugemarginsinthisproductline.
Andthentheinventoryturnaroundtimeintherailsectionwillincrease.So,wearedeveloping
thistracksection.So,forthatweseetheworkingcapitaltobeworkingcapitalcycletobe
increasedinthetracksection.Particularlyforthetracksection,wewithinatimeframeofone
andahalfyear,weareraisingthatamountofmoney.
Vansh:Okay.So,likeonlyforthetracksectionyouneedextraworkingcapital,otherwiseforall
productsit'snotneeded?
HimanshuLohia:Forthebogieandforthecurrentpartwhichwearedoing,wedowehavesufficientworking
capitalforus.Butsincewewanttoaddonthetracksectionalsoandwherethecostofraw
materialisincreasing,whichwillincreaseourPATmarginsaswell.So,wearegoingforthe
warrantsinthatsection.
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Vansh:Okay.Canyoujusttellabouthowmuchtrackrevenuedoestracksectioncontributetotopline?
HimanshuLohia:Currentlyorinfutureyouaresaying?
Vansh:No,currentlyandfuturealsoboth?
HimanshuLohia:So,currentlywedoingthesub-assemblyofthetrackpart.Wearenotdoingthecompletetrack
section.So,currentlyIcansaythetracksectionhavecontributedapproximatelyINR20crores
inarevenue.AndinfutureweseethatincreasingtoINR60crorestoINR70croresintwo
financialyear.
Vansh:Andnowforthelikerecentnewplantornewbogieplant,sohaveyoureceivedanyRDSO
certificationyetorit'sinprocess?
HimanshuLohia:It'sinprocess.
Vansh:Like,whenwillweexpectingthatbecauseotherwisewewon'tbeabletostarttheproduction?
HimanshuLohia:Wecan--wewillbeabletostarttheproductionofvariousdifferentlines,sir.That'swhatwe
didJune,we'llbeabletostarttheproduction.Oncetheapprovalreceived,we'llbeableto
supplytotheRailwaysdirectlyandbidthetendersfromtheRailway.Therewillbeadditional
marginscomingintoit,otherwisewe'llbeabletostarttheproductionwithotherproductlines.
Vansh:Yes.So,likeinthismonthonlywe'llbeexpectingtoreceivetheRDSOcertification,right?
HimanshuLohia:RDSOapprovalbynextmonthforthenewplantandtheproductionforothervariouslinewill
bestartingwithinthismonth.
Vansh:Okay.AndlikeyoumentionedaboutINR140crorestoINR150croresofcurrentorderbook,
soit'sexecutableinthisyearonlyoritwillbegotothenextyear?
HimanshuLohia:Sir,it'sexecutablewithinthisfinancialyear.AndtherehaveI'vetoldtherewerevarious
multipleorderlikeopenordersaswellorfewproducts.So,exactorderbookyoucannot
define,butwecanexecutetheseorderbookwithinthisfinancialyear.
Vansh:Okay.So,that'sitfrommyside.Thankyou.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofShubhamPadhiarfromChhattisgarhInvestments.
Pleasegoahead.
ShubhamPadhiar:Yes.Hi.AmIaudible?
HimanshuLohia:Yes,sir.Please.
ShubhamPadhiar:So,firstlyyou'veexplainedthatrawmaterialpriceshaveincreased,whichhasresultedinour
grossmarginsandEBITDAmarginsgoingdown.So,ifyoucanexplainlikehowdoyousee
thesemarginsgoingforwardgiventheincreaseinrawmaterials?
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HimanshuLohia:Sir,Isaidtherawmaterialpriceshaveincreased,butthePATandthemarginswhichwehad
thathasishasbeensustainablebecausethereisapricevariationclauseaswell.Andwiththe
privatewherealsowearesupplying,thereisatermsandunderstandingbecausetheyareinto
alsosameproduct.Accordinglytheabovepricesgetrevised.So,thereisachainofreaction.
So,weareseeingthesamehappeningwiththeotherpeopleaswellwhichareinthemarket.
So,accordinglythesellingpriceisincreasingandtherawmaterialpricesareincreasing.
ShubhamPadhiar:Buttheremightbesomelag,Imeanisitjustdoyouguysorderbasedontheordersthatyou
haveoristhereanypricelaginthisescalation?
HimanshuLohia:So,thereisalwaysalagintheproductoneproducttoproductbasis.So,onlythingtofightthat
andtokeepthePATmarginwhichyou'retryingtoachieveintactisdiversifyingtowardsnew
andbetterproductsanddevelopthemassoonaslikeyourmarginstartsgettingaffectedfromit.
ShubhamPadhiar:Okay.Andalsoonreceivableside,Imissedyourpoint.So,receivableshaveshotuppretty
muchandgiventhisyearwehadapproximately20%,25%salesfromprivateplayersaswell.
So,ifyoucangiveusanideaastohowtolookatreceivablesnumbersgoingforward?
HimanshuLohia:So,sir,thesalethemajorofthereceivablesyou'llseefromthelastfinancialyearisfromthe
Railwaysdirectly.So,IhadexplainedthecallbeforealsotheFebruaryandMarcharethe
monthswherethefundallocatedfortheparticularcomponentsmaintenance,theirfundsget
exhaustedandintheApriltheirfundsareagainissued.So,from1stAprilitselfwestart
gettingthosereceivables.So,thatistheonlydifferenceinthelikewhythemarginsreceivables
haveshotupinthemonthofMarch.
ShubhamPadhiar:Okay.So,forFY27weshouldseeasimilarlevelof50days,55days?
HimanshuLohia:I'llsayinthe6monthsyou'llseeasthesamebecausethat'swherewehaveoncewe're
supplyingtotheRailwaythatisthetimewhentheyhavethefundsavailablewiththem.Inthe
March,ifyou'resupplyingtotheRailwaysinthesameproductline,definitelythereceivables
inthemonthofFebruaryandMarchwouldbelittlehighcomparedtoanyofthemonth.
ShubhamPadhiar:Yes.So,I'maskingreceivablesnumbersforFY27.Doyouexpectittocomedown?
HimanshuLohia:Weexpectittocomedown,sir.
ShubhamPadhiar:Toourhistoricalaverage,right?
HimanshuLohia:Right.
ShubhamPadhiar:Okay.Yes.That'sit.Thankyou.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofShubhamGuptafromProsperaWealthPrivate
Limited.Pleasegoahead.
ShubhamGupta:Firstofall,sir,excellentnumbers.Congratsonthat.So,myquestionisbasicallyforthenext3
years,whatisyourvisionintermsofthetopline,howdoyouthinklikethecompanywill
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growforthenext3years?Andalsothrowsomelightonthemarginsbecauseyou'resaying
thatinfuturewagonmanufacturingfacilitywillalsobelive.So,howwillthatimpact?
HimanshuLohia:So,incomingthreefinancialyearaswestatedbefore,wewanttodevelopproductline,a
completeassemblylinefortheRailwaysindifferentvarioussectorandwhereweareableto
generateandthePATmarginsaswellaswebelieveinthebottomline.Thatisthemainfocus
whichwehave.
So,forthecomingtheforthefinancialyearwhichwearein,weareexpectingtoINR220
croresofrevenue.Andnextfinancialyearwhereaboththefacilitywewillbeusingthis
facilityaswelltothepeak,weareexpectingaroundINR200fromthisandaroundINR130or
INR140fromtheoldplantaswell.So,thatisgoingtobearevenue.Andnexttonextfinancial
yearwhereweplantobeacompletewagonmanufacturingcompany,wewillbeexpecting
hugechunkingrowthofrevenuefromthemthattime3yearsfromnow.
ShubhamGupta:Okay,sir.So,thiswagonmanufacturingfacilityhowmuchrevenueitwillcomeitwilllikeon
atthepeaklevelhowmuchrevenueitwillcontribute?
HimanshuLohia:So,rightnowwearedoingthemanufacturingfacility.Fromthatwewillbeabletodo200
wagonwetargetingin3yearsdowntheline.
ShubhamGupta:Okay.Thankyou,sir.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofKetanRChhedaanIndividualInvestor.Pleasego
ahead.
KetanRChheda:Yes.Hi.Thankyoufortheopportunityandcongratulationsonagoodperformancefor26,
FY26.Sir,myquestioniswithrespecttothereceivables.Youexplainedthatthereceivables
shootupinthemonthofMarch.Butcanyougiveussomekindofanoutlookbywhenthis
receivableswillbereceivedatyourcompany?InQ1willitbeallclearedbythepeoplewho
havetopayyou?
HimanshuLohia:AprilbyApril15itgothalfofwhatitwasIcanjustsaythis.
KetanRChheda:Sorry.Sayagain.Icouldnothearyou.
HimanshuLohia:April15thitself,itgothalfofwhatitwas.
KetanRChheda:So,outofapproximatelyINR32croreswhichwasthereasreceivablesasof31stMarch,you
havereceivedabout50%ofthat?
HimanshuLohia:Yes.ApproximatelytodayI'llsaymydebtorbookisaround20.
KetanRChheda:INR20croresispendingyet.
HimanshuLohia:Yes.
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KetanRChheda:Okay.Fine.Thankyou.Andtheotherquestioniswithrespecttothecapex.NowforFY27,
whatisyourcapexplan?Howdoyouplantofunditandforwhatpurposeitwillbeused?
HimanshuLohia:Thecapexwhichisthemoneywhichisleftyou'resaying?
KetanRChheda:No,thecapexplanforthisfinancialyearFY27.Whatevercapexesyouareplanning,newlines
newfacilities,whateverthatyouareplanningforthisfinancialyear.So,howmuchmoneyis
budgetedforthecapexforFY27?
HimanshuLohia:Solastyearwe'llsaywehavesowntheseedsalready.So,lastyearwehavedonealotof
capexandwhererevenueandgenerationisgoingtocomeinthisfinancialyear.Beitthebogie
plant,beitthetracksectionorbeitthefabricationbusinesssection.Theseallcapexwe've
done.So,thisyearwhatwemainlyfocusonisgeneratingtherevenueandharvesttheseeds
whichwehavealreadysowninthelastfinancialyearandgettherevenue.
Andthecapexandexpansionwhichweareplanning,thatwewillbeplanningintheother
assemblylineoftheRailways.So,accordinglyrightnowwefocusongeneratingtherevenue
andtheprofitsfromthelastyearcapexandbringingtheplantintoproductionline.Andifwe
seeanyscopeofgoodproductlineandexpansion,accordinglyfromowninternalswewillbe
doingtheexpansion.
KetanRChheda:ButwhatisthefigureforFY27?Iunderstandyoumentionedthatyou'vedoneamajorityof
thecapexlastyearitself.Whichmeansthisyearthereisnomajorcapexexceptforsome
maintenanceorupgrades,minorupgradesthatmaybethere.Isthatcorrect?
HimanshuLohia:So,lastyearifyou'llsee10approximatelyINR10croresoffundswereleftforthebogie
manufacturingplantwhichwealreadyutilizedasofdate.ThatINR10croresofcapexhave
alreadybeendoneinthisfinancialyear.Andotherthanthis,otherassemblylinewhichwe
targetingfortheproductline,thatcapexwouldbethere.
KetanRChheda:Allright.Thankyousomuchandwishyouallthebest.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofMaitriShahfromSapphireCapital.Pleasego
ahead.
MaitriShah:Yes.Goodmorning.Justoneclarificationontheworkingcapitalrequirementsyousaidforthe
tracksectionweneed.Areweraisingitthroughequityordebt?
HimanshuLohia:Wehaveweplacedwarrantsforthat.
MaitriShah:Andwhatamountareweraising?
HimanshuLohia:Approximately29.
MaitriShah:Couldyourepeat?
HimanshuLohia:ApproximatelyINR29.
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MaitriShah:INR29crores.Okay.Thankyouandallthebest.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofSanketSadhfromAarthAIF.Pleasegoahead.
SanketSadh:Hi,Himanshusir.Congratulationsonagreatsetofresults.Andmyquestioniswhattrendsare
youseeingonthegroundfromIndianRailways,ICF,RCF,MCFfornewproductslikeI
rememberlastyearyouhadidentifiedtracksandcrossingsandyouhadmentionedthatinthe
previousearningscallthattheseareemergingtrends.So,isthereanyotheremergingtrend
whichyou'recurrentlytrackingrightnow?
HimanshuLohia:DefinitelythereiscontinuouschangegoingonintherealIndianRailways.Theyareworking
hardtowardsdevelopingnewproductlineanddevelopingnewcriteriaaswell.Oneofthe
criteriawhichhascomeisforleasingandmaintenanceofalltheselines.So,wearetryingto
worktowardsthatlineaswell.
SanketSadh:Allright.Butthisismoreofaservice.Isthereanythinginproducts?
HimanshuLohia:So,it'saproductline.Thisiswhereyou'llbeleasingformaintenance,meansyou'llbeputting
yourproductline,yourproductalsoandmaintainingit.Whenit'snotjustaserviceline,itis
whereyouwillbeactuallyconditioningtheirwagonsandputtingtherequiredmaintenance
lineaswell.
SanketSadh:Okay.Allright.AndlikewhatisthecurrentcapacityinIndiaforbogiemanufacturingand
whatistherequirementbythegovernmentandprivateplayers?
HimanshuLohia:So,bogiemanufacturingcomesoncetheaccordingisverydirectlyproportionaltowhatwagon
manufactureraredoing.So,bogiemanufacturingofthewagonI'msaying.Coachisseparate.
So,coachiscontinuouslydevelopingandtherehavebeennewdevelopmentintermsofVande
Bharatandvariousotherandtheyaretryingtoimprovisethattoothercoachesalso,the
previouslyusedcoachesalso,beitLWLHandotherbogiesinthewagonaswell.So,it'sina
veryincreasingtrend.So,it'sverydifficulttogiveyouexactnumberforthat.
SanketSadh:Okay.Noworries.So,Irememberyouhadmentionedthatcompletebogiestypicallyfetch
betterpricing,right?However,sincetherewassupplyissuefromIbelieveitwassomePSU.
So,Ibelievesomepricingwouldhavealsochangedforcompletebogies,right?So,howmuch
changewasthereexactly?
HimanshuLohia:So,therewasachangeinthebogiepricingaswell.So,it'sbecausetherewasa--that'swhy
westarteddevelopingotherproductlinetowardstrackandcoachesaswell.So,wewhatwe
seethegapwhichcameinthewagonindustryandthepriceswentdown.Oncethis1lakh
wagonorderrollsout,thewhatmarginsthepriceshadgonedownwouldalsoincreaseinthe
wagonsectionaswell.So,roughlyfromwhatwassoldtoINR3.25lakh,itcamedownto
aroundINR2.70toINR2.80lakh.
SanketSadh:Okay.Sincewagonmanufacturingwillpickupagainiswhatwe'reseeinginthenewsand
sincetheyfetchhighermargins,wouldn'titbepossibleforustohaveahigherPATmargin
than25%whichwealreadyrecordedinthepast?Becausepreviouslywewerejustdoing
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componentsandnowwe'llbemanufacturingcompletebogiesoncewegettheapproval.So,
don'tyouthinkwewouldbedoingbetterthan25%PATmargins?
HimanshuLohia:So,whathappenedisslowlyandsteadilyoncetheproductwhichwearein,thenewpeople
comeinandthemarginsinthatstartdeterioratingandourbenefitandourworkisthatwekeep
developingotherproductlinewhichhavegoodmargins.So,ifyou'llseetheotherproducts
slowlytheoldproductswhichwearedoingarevenuesharegoesdownandourstartincreasing
inabetterproductline.
So,roughlyestimateit'sacouplekittyofdifferentproducts.Somehavelowermargins,some
havehighermargins.So,intotalcurrentlywhatwearetargetingis25.Oncethenewplantis
alsointactandweareabletogeneratetherevenueinthatscope,wewilllookforwardfor
bettermarginaswell.Butcurrentlywetargetingthecoupleofproductswhichwearedoing,
wetarget25%ofPATinplace.
SanketSadh:Gotit.Andmylastquestionisthatonthebalancesheet,weseethere'saINR38croresunder
capitalworkinprogress.However,IbelievethattowardstheendofMarchmostofthefactory
hadalreadybeencompletedandit'sstillasignificantamountwhichisininthissection.So,
wouldwebeseeingthiscompletelyzeroinSeptember?
HimanshuLohia:It'salreadyutilized.Itisalreadyutilizedasofdate.
SanketSadh:Okay.Allright.That'sitfrommyend.Thankyouandbestofluck.
HimanshuLohia:Wehavealreadypaideverythinglike80%oftheamountstoallthepeople.Itwas
commissioninghappening.So,restoftheamounthappensaftercommissioning.So,that
amountwasleft.So,rightnowalmostallcommissioningisiniscompleted.So,theamount
havebeenutilized.
SanketSadh:Okay.Allright.Thankyou,Himanshu.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofMahakJainfromVentureXAlphaAifFund.
Pleasegoahead.
MahakJain:Hello.AmIaudible?
HimanshuLohia:Yesaudible.
MahakJain:So,myfirstquestionisregardingwehavecurrentlyraisedmoneywearepreferentialissue.So,
whatexactlyisthepurposefortheissue?
HimanshuLohia:I'vestatedbeforeforthetracksectionwhichwearedoing,we'llneedtheworkingcapitalfor
thatwithintwoyears.So,forthatscope,wehaveraisedthemoney.
MahekJain:Andhowbywhattimeframearewegoingtoutilizethatparticularfund?
HimanshuLohia:Weexpectthatfundtobeutilizedwithinoneandahalfyeartotwoyears.So,accordinglywe
haveraisedwarrantsforthatamount.
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MahekJain:Okay.So,byfinancialyear28thattracksectionassemblylinewillallwillalsobeoperational.
HimanshuLohia:Itwillbeoperationalrightnowitself,butwithamountincreasingtoarevenue,that
accordinglywehavetargetedthat.
MahekJain:Okay.So,howmuchrevenueareweexpectingfromthatparticularline?
HimanshuLohia:WeexpectingaroundINR60crorestoINR70croresofrevenueintotal.
MahekJain:Okay.INR60toINR70croreswhenthelinewillbeoperationalonafullutilization.Andwhat
currentlythatparticularsectioniscontributingcurrentlytoourtopline?
HimanshuLohia:So,tracksectioniscontributinginassemblyline,butrightnow,theonethecompleteturnout
turnaround,thatisnotcontributing,whichwillbecontributingsoon.
MahekJain:Okay.Secondly,youhavementionedthat,wehavecurrentlyanorderbookofaroundINR140
crorestoINR150crores.So,whatexactlyisthebifurcationofthatparticularorder?How
muchisfromthebogiecomponent,howmuchfromthebogieorfromtrackorfromtheother
segments?
HimanshuLohia:So,rightnowyoucansay20%to30%fromthetrackandaround40%fromthecoachsection
andrestisfromthewagonsection,whenwetalkingaboutRailways.
MahekJain:Okay.So,wagonsectionbothbogiecomponentsandthebogie?
HimanshuLohia:Yes.
MahekJain:Okay.Also,whatisthebifurcationbetweentherevenuedirectlyfromthegovernmentand
fromtheprivateplayers?
HimanshuLohia:Directlyfromthegovernment,itisapproximatelyyoucansay40%ofoursale.
MahekJain:Okay.40%directlyfromthegovernmentandrestfromtheprivateplayers.Okay.Additionally,
Ijustwantedtoknowthatasperthenumbers,ourotherincomehassignificantlyincreasedin
thefinancialyear26.So,whatexactlyisthereasonbehindtheincreaseintheotherincome?
Whatexactlyhasbeenincorporatedthere?
HimanshuLohia:InterestoftheFDRswhichwastherewithusfortheIPO.
MahekJain:Okay,okay.Andalso,currentlywehave25RDSO-certifiedproducts.Andyousaidthat
currentlyaround15to20productsareunderpipeline.So,bywhattimeareweexpectingfor
theirRDSOapproval?
HimanshuLohia:Therearedifferenttimeframeforeachproductfromthreemonthstosevenmonthswe're
expectingtheproductstoturnout.
MahekJain:Okay,okay.Andwhatexactlytheproductarefromwhichindustryfromthetrackorthe
coachesorsomeother?
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HimanshuLohia:Allthreeofthem.
MahekJain:Allthreeofthem.Okay,okay.AndthelastquestionthatIwantedtoknowthatgoingforward
inthefuture,whatexactlywillbeourmajorfocusareatogoaheadinfinancialyear‘28and
‘29andalsointhe‘27?
HimanshuLohia:Todevelopacompleteassemblyline,completeproductwhichwillbegoingintotheRailways
andgivingavalue-addadditionintermsoflifeaswellasalsotothemarginstothecompany.
Thatisourgoal.
MahekJain:Okay,okay.Thankyou.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofJagdeepSinghfromToolroomLLP.Pleasego
ahead.
JagdeepSingh:Hello.Hello.Sir,amIaudible?
HimanshuLohia:Yes.Audibleplease.
JagdeepSingh:Sir,Ijustwanttoknow,sir,thereisaregimechangeinWestBengalandyourmajorrevenue
isfromWestBengal.
HimanshuLohia:Ican'thearyou.
JagdeepSingh:Hello.
HimanshuLohia:Yes.You'renotclear.Canyou?
Moderator:Jagdeep,mayIrequestyoutopleaseuseyourhandsetmodeandjustincreasethevolume.
JagdeepSingh:Ma'am,asfarasIknow,yourmajorrevenueisfromWestBengal.So,thereisaregime
changeinWestBengal.Howdoyouseeitwillaffectpositivelytous?
HimanshuLohia:Ididn't--canyourepeatthequestion?Majorrevenueisfromwhatandhowwillwhateffect?
JagdeepSingh:Sir,thereisaregimechangeinWestBengalandyourmajorrevenueisfromWestBengalas
farasIknow.So,isthereanybenefitofthattoyouorcompany?
HimanshuLohia:Yes.DefinitelyoncelikeIfeeloneofthemajorthings,thenewwagonindustryiscompletely
situatedlikewiththeWestBengalandneworderhavecomeupintheWestBengalafternew
wagonindustrylike1lakhwagonorderhavecome,oncethenewchangehavebeentherein
thepowerinWestBengal.So,definitelytherewouldbelotofchangesinWestBengal,andif
thereisgoodgovernanceandnew,definitelyitwillimpactus.
JagdeepSingh:So,thereisalsothechancesofcapexinthatindustrynow?
HimanshuLohia:OurrevenueiscomingfromtheRailwaymajorityandinfocustheRailwayhavebeenthelike
primemostfocusofthegovernmentinallitsaspect.So,sinceRailwayhavealwaysbeenthe
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focus,sotherehavebeenlotofdevelopment,lotofchangesintheindustryalways.So,
definitely,itisgoing,itisaffectingandthereisaprimesectorandit'llkeepimpacting.
JagdeepSingh:Also,sir,youaretakingorderthroughthebiddingonGeM.Isthereanypossibilitythatyou
cangetstraightMOUwithRailwaysorthesecompanies?
HimanshuLohia:So,wearegettingorderfromtheelectronice-procurementsystemwhichisIREPSfromthe
fromtheRailways.Andtheprivatesectorswhatwetheorderswhichwearegetting,thatisthe
directliaisoningwiththeprivateclientsandyourliaisoningandyourcapacitycapability.
JagdeepSingh:Okay,sir.Thankyou.
HimanshuLohia:Yes.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofVishal,anIndividualInvestor.Pleasegoahead.
Vishal:Hello.
Moderator:You'reaudible.
HimanshuLohia:Hi,Vishal.
Vishal:Hi.Goodafternoon,Himanshuandverygoodsetofnumbers.Congratulations.Mostofmost
ofmyquestionshavebeenanswered.Ijustwanttounderstandtwothings.Numberoneisthat,
outofINR210croresandINR220croreswhichyou'retargeting,howmuchbogie
manufacturingwillcontributeintoitthisyear?
HimanshuLohia:Fromthatsir,Icansayfromthenewplantwhichwearetargeting,it'snotjustthebogie,it's
couplerandotherproductalso.So,fromthenewliketheplant,INR110croresofrevenuewe
targeting.
Vishal:No.See,soIjusthaveaconfusioninthesensethat,therearesomecomponentswhichyou
alreadyhaveRDSOapproval.Andthenthecapexwhichwehavegoneliveisforbogieand
assemblysub-assemblyparts.Right.So,thetotalrevenueINR220crores,howmuch,Imean,
bogiecontributionwillbehowmuchfromit?Notassembly,Imean,thecompletebogie
manufacturingalongwithcomponents.
HimanshuLohia:So,togiveyouaclearbifurcation,theoldplantiswherewecandoproduct,anyproduct
whichislessthan100kg.Andthenewplantwhichisthere,wewilldotheproductany
product,whicharelessthan1ton,whichis1000kg.So,fromtheoldplantweexpecting
INR110croresofrevenue.
AndfromthenewplantwhichisweareexpectingINR100croresofrevenuetototalINR210
crorestoINR220croresofrevenueweexpectinthisfinancialyear.So,innewplantwe'llbe
makingthebogiealso,coupleralso,crossingalso,andotherproductlinealso.
Vishal:Gotit,gotit.Andso,forthisplantyou've,you'veraisedaroundINR50croresandthepeak
revenuewillbearoundINR200crores-210crores,right?
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HimanshuLohia:Right.
Vishal:So,Imean,wehavealsoraisedalsoraised.
HimanshuLohia:Forthisplant.
Vishal:Sorry.
HimanshuLohia:WeraisedINR77croresandINR50croresofcapexwasdoneinthisplant.
Vishal:Right.So,wehaveagainraisedINR29croresforpreferentialissue,andwhatwillbethepeak
revenuefromthatissue?Imeanwearegoingintotracksystemmanufacturing.So,whatwill
bethepeakrevenuewhichwecanexpectfromthiscapexof29crores?
HimanshuLohia:INR80crores,INR70toINR80croresweexpectinginthis.
Vishal:Okay.Andwhatwouldbethenextcapex?Imean,whenweareplanningandhowitwillbe
funded?
HimanshuLohia:Wewanttogoincompleteassemblyline.Wealreadywearecompletelydevelopedforthe
cast--machinecastedproduct.Wearecompletelydevelopedforthefabricationline.Weare
developingforthespringandrubberplant.So,thatisgoingtobeournextscopeofcapexfor
us.
Vishal:Andhowyou'regoingtoraisethemoneyforthatandwhenwillitbe?
HimanshuLohia:Thecapexanycapexwhichweareplanningtodo,weplantodoitfrominternalaccruals,the
profitswhicharecomingintothecompany.
Vishal:Okay.Okay.Thankyouandallthebest,Himanshu.Goodluck.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofShubhamPadhiarfromChhattisgarhInvestment.
Pleasegoahead.
ShubhamPadhiar:So,whatwasourtax-relatedbenefitforFY26?
HimanshuLohia:Wetaxlimitwepaid15%taxplus2.5%cess.So,17.5%iswhatwearepayingandother
companiesarepaying25%.
ShubhamPadhiar:I'msorry,Ididn'tgetyou.Howmucharewepaying?
HimanshuLohia:Wearepayingin15plus2.5%cess,thatis17.5,whereasalltheothercompaniesarepaying
25%.
ShubhamPadhiar:Okay.So,differenceisourbenefit?
HimanshuLohia:Yes.Thisisoneofthebenefit,whichisourlifetime.
ShubhamPadhiar:Okay.So,wearenotreceivinganykindofsubsidies,right?Itisjustourtaxrateislower?
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HimanshuLohia:No.Yes.Thereisit'snotasubsidy,itwasaschemebythecentralgovernment.Thecompanies
whichwereincorporatedinbetween2020andstartedtheirproductionbefore2024,theywere
liableforthisbenefit.Andifyou'retakingthisbenefit,youcannottakeanyotherbenefit.That
is.
ShubhamPadhiar:Okay.Andthisisforthelifetime?
HimanshuLohia:Andthisisthereisnosunsetclauseinthis.
ShubhamPadhiar:Okay.Gotit.Thankyou.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofRajeshSinglafromVTGCapital.Pleasegoahead.
RajeshSingla:Yes.Hi.Thankyoufortheopportunityandcongratulationsonverygoodsetofnumbers,
Himanshu.Regardingacoupleofquestion,oneisthatallthecapexwhatwehavedonesofar
andthemoneywhichwehaverecentlyraisedfromwarrantsthatyouwouldbealsoinvesting
incomingmonthsandyears.
So,whatkindofrevenueexpectationwecanseeinFY28?GiventhatFY27guidanceyou
havebeenveryconsistentabouttalkingabout210,220sincetheIPO.So,whatkindof
revenueguidancewecanexpectforFY28consideringthatyouwouldbedoingmosteven
morecapexmaybethisyearornextyearaswell?
HimanshuLohia:Right.Sir,nexttonextfinancialyearweexpectingapeakrevenuefromthiswhichisaround
INR200croreandapproximatelyINR110fromtheoldplantplustheINR60crorestoINR70
crorefromthetrackfurtherexpansionwhatwehavedone.Altogetherthatweareexpectingin
nextfinancialyear.
RajeshSingla:So,we'reexpectingaroundINR350crorestoINR400croreskindofrevenueinFY28?
HimanshuLohia:INR350croresapproximatelywe'reexpecting,sir.
RajeshSingla:INR350croresinFY28.Andmarginswouldbesimilar,like25%PATmargin?
HimanshuLohia:Focusinourprimetargetisthebottomline.
RajeshSingla:Okay.Okay.Andanyothermarketsegment,IthinklastIrememberlasttimeyoutalkedabout
miningcomponentsasatargetsegment.Andanyothermarketwhichyouareexploringwhich
youcanhighlightwhichcangiveusalongertermgrowthvisibility?
HimanshuLohia:So,sir,whatthedifferentfieldswhichweareexploringaretheminingandalsothe,thereare
thermalplants.So,there,becauselotoffocusistowardsenergysectionandtherehavebeenlot
ofinvestmentbythegovernmenttowardsenergyinthermalingenerationofelectricity.And
wewishtoencashthatopportunityaswellandtherearelotofproductlinewhichwecan
manufacturearebeingusedinthermalplants.So,wearegoingtotargetthatalso.
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RajeshSingla:Willwebespendingmorecapexforcateringtothesetwomarketsoritwillbesufficientour
existingfacilityIthinkwillbetoppedoutbyFY28?So,willyoubespendingmorecapex
significantcapexinFY28tocatertothesetwonewmarkets?
HimanshuLohia:Sir,theplantandthecapacityplantandinfrastructurewhichwehaveiscapableoftargeting
boththefacilities,boththemarketsector.Wedon'thavetodevelopdonewcapexforthese
twosectors.Wecanmanufacturetheproductlineforthesetwosectoraswell.Andthenew
capexwhichwillbetargetingandwillbeinprecisiondifferentdevelopingacomplete
assemblylineofrubberandspringsaswell.So,wehaveamergerofallthecriticalitywe
couldgiveacompleteassemblylinetotheRailways.
RajeshSingla:Okay.Okay.Andwhatisthescopeofbrownfield.
Moderator:I'msorrytointerrupt,Mr.Singla.Youmaypleasere-jointhequeueforfollow-upquestions.
RajeshSingla:Sorry.Justlastquestionifyoucananswer?
HimanshuLohia:Yes,please.
RajeshSingla:Yes.So,whatisthescopeofbrownfieldexpansioninthecurrentfacilitieswhichweare
alreadybuildingoralreadybuilt?So,istherescopeforbrownfieldexpansioninthat,likedo
wehavesparelandthere?
HimanshuLohia:So,ifanyonewouldhavecometoourplantyou'veseenthereisascopeahugescopeof
expansioninthelikearea.Thereareavailabilityoflandwhereweneedwecandevelopother
linesaswellclosetoourplant.Accordinglywehavechosenthatlocation.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofAnilShenoy,anIndividualInvestor.Pleasego
ahead.
AnilShenoy:Hi.Thankyousomuchfortakingmyquestions.Firstofall,congratulationsongreatsetof
numbersandalsoyou'reoneofthefewSMEcompanieswhohavebeenconsistentwithyour
guidanceandyou'veachieveditaswell.Ithinkthatisveryimpressive.So,many
congratulationsonthat.
JustmyfirstquestionisI'mjusttryingtounderstandwhatisthemoatofthecompany?
Becauseyouhavesuchimpressivemargins.Justtryingtounderstandwhoyourcompetitors
are?Aretheyalsoearningsimilarkindofmarginsandinotherwordshowareyouableto
maintainsuchkindofmargins?I'mjusttryingtounderstandthat.
That'smyfirstquestion.AndsecondlyfortheFY27guidance,againwhichyou'vebeenvery
consistenton,isitgoingtobedividedroughlyequallyintoH1andH2orwouldtherebesome
kindofseasonalitythere?Thankyou.
HimanshuLohia:So,ourcompetitorswe'llsayeachsectortherearedifferentcompetitors.Initiallyoncewewere
forthewagonmanufacturing,sothemajorcompetitorwouldwereFrontera,RoysSteel,and
AtulEngineering.Andtheyarenot,thesepartiesarenotlisted,butyoucanyou'llseetheirinto
theirbooksyou'llseegoodsetofmarginsfromthem.
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Definitelywehavegotvariousbenefit,thetaxbenefit,thelocationbenefit,andalsowearea
debt-freecompanywearenotputtinganycost.So,focusremainsonreducingthecostasmuch
aspossible,beittheinterestcost,beitthepowercost,beittherawmaterialcost,andweare
abletogeneratebettermarginstoourcompetitorsaswell.So,thisisrelatedtoyourpartof
competition.Comingtotheguidanceofnew,wehavealreadygiventhatguidance.Canyou
repeatotherquestionwhichyouhad?
AnilShenoy:Yes.Hi.So,itwasjustabouttheseasonality.Imean,isthatINR210crorestoINR220crores
dividedequallybetweenH1andH2orwouldH2beslightlyhigherthanH1?
HimanshuLohia:H2willdefinitelybehigherthanH1becausethebogieproduction,thenewplantproduction
willbefromthismonth.So,definitelywelostthreealreadytwotothreemonthsinthis.And
further,H2it'salinearrapidgrowth.So,definitelyH2isgoingtobebetterthanH1.
AnilShenoy:Okay.That'sveryhelpful.Thankyousomuch.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofRameshD,anIndividualInvestor.Pleasego
ahead.
RameshD:Hello?AmIaudible?
Moderator:Ramesh,yes,you'reaudible.
RameshD:Hello?
Moderator:You'reaudible,sir.
RameshD:So,myquestionisonthecompetitionwhichpreviousinvestorwasasking.So,dowehavethe
competitionfromImeanIwanttoknowwhoarethelistedplayersfromwhomwefacingthe
competition?Icouldnothearyouranswerwhereyouwereresponding.Howareweableto
maintainsuchhugemargins?
HimanshuLohia:Sir,anyofouractualcompetitorisnotlistedandnoonegoesforlistingaswellbecausethere
ishugesetofmarginsinourproductlineandnobodywouldwishtosharethesamewithany
anyone.So,ifyou'llseeallthecompanieswhicharethereinourfieldtheyareverystrong
debt-freecompanieswhichhavebeenworkingsinceyearsandyearsandhavebeenenjoying
thesemargins.So,butthereareotherunlistedplayersinthemarketwhichareourdirect
competitorsifyoucansay.
RameshD:So,thecompetition,overallcompetitionislessandyouareabletohavethatpricingpower.Is
thatright?
HimanshuLohia:Canyourepeatthequestion?
RameshD:So,Iwanttoknowifthecompetitionisveryhigh,stillyouareabletomaintainthatmarginsor
thecompetitionisless,thatiswhyyouaregoingyouarehavingthehighpricingpower?
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HimanshuLohia:Definitely,sir,thereisaverybigentrybarrierwhicharetheapprovalsandtheseareallthe
criticalcomponents.So,thereareverylessfewpartieswhicharethereineachproductline.So,
entrybarrierisveryhighthatdirectlyleadstothegoodmarginsinit.
RameshD:Okay,sir.Thankyou.
Moderator:Thankyou.NextquestionisfromthelineofKetanRChheda,anIndividualInvestor.Please
goahead.
KetanRChheda:Yes.Hi.Thankyouforthefollow-upopportunity.Sir,inyourvisionstatementyoumentioned
thatyouwouldliketoexportaswell,youwouldliketoexportcomponentsfromyourfacilities.
Bywhendoyouthinkyoucouldstartexports?
HimanshuLohia:Onceweare,ourprecisionengineeringandourcapabilityiswellenoughofexportingthese
productlinetoagoodmarket,beitUSorUK.Rightnowwearenotabletoproducethat
quality.So,wearetargetingbynextfinancialyearthatwestartsomeexportaswell.
KetanRChheda:ByFY28youexpecttostartexportsaswell?
HimanshuLohia:Right.
KetanRChheda:Allright.Andtheotherquestionwasyouraisedsomemoneythroughapreferentialroundand
Iheardyoumentioningitwasforworkingcapitalessentially.Myquestionis,sir,forworking
capitalwhywouldyouwanttodiluteexistingshareholders?Youwouldhavegoneforsome
sortofadebtaswell,right?
HimanshuLohia:Sir,weareadebt-freecompanyandmaintargetistoreducethecostbeittoanycostwhichis
incurringtothecompany.Andwhenwewentforawarrant,evenourpromoterhaveinvested
inthecompanytonotdilutetheholdingofthepromoters.
KetanRChheda:No,sir.Iunderstand.Imean,thepromotersmayhaveparticipated,buttheothershareholders
getdilutedbecauseyou'reissuingmoreshares.Yousinceyouarebuyingyourownsharesby
participating,soyouknowyourholdingdoesn'tgodown,buttheexistingshareholdersthey
getdiluted.Andforaworkingcapitalgenerallypeoplewouldkindofgofor,youknow,adebt,
youknow,anditkindofwouldbeshorttermandyouwouldhaverepaidandstilltakencareof
theminorityshareholders.So,thatwasmypoint.
HimanshuLohia:Butthemainthingistokeepthecostlowestoftheproductwhichwearedoing.So,anycost
whichisincurringtothecompany,weareworkingonreducingthat.So,wewishtokeepthat
assuch.
KetanRChheda:Okay.So,wouldyouwouldyoubedilutinggoingforwardaswellwheneveryouhaveaneed
foranykindofaworkingcapitalinthefuture?
HimanshuLohia:Rightnowforthebogieandthetracksectionwhichwe'redoing,thewe'vealreadyweare
alreadyraisingthemoney,sowedon'tseedilutingfortheworkingcapitalrightnowforthis
financialyearrightnow.
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KetanRChheda:Andanyandforanyotherpurposesaswell,doyouseeissuingadditionalwarrantsordiluting?
HimanshuLohia:Wedon'twedon'tseethatrightnow,sir.
KetanRChheda:Youdon'tsee.Okay,okay.Thankyousomuch,sir.Wishyouallthebest.Thankyou.
Moderator:Thankyou.Ladiesandgentlemen,thatwasthelastquestionfortoday.Inowhandthe
conferenceovertoMr.KaranThakurforclosingcomments.
KaranThakur:ThankyouforjoiningthecallofNeetuYoshiLimited.Shouldyouhaveanyqueries,youcan
dropanemailtoresearch@kirinadvisors.com.Thankyouforalljoiningthecall.Thankyou.
HimanshuLohia:Thankyousomuch.
Moderator:Thankyou.OnbehalfofKirinAdvisorsPrivateLimited,thatconcludesthisconference.
Thankyouallforjoiningustodayandyoumaynowdisconnectyourlines.
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